Wednesday, November 01, 2006

Kerry: I don't know how to apologize

This is the equivalent of saying "I'm sorry your face ran into my fist":

"I sincerely regret that my words were misinterpreted to wrongly imply anything negative about those in uniform, and I personally apologize to any service member, family member, or American who was offended," he said in a written statement.

What, exactly, did he say (if you live under a rock)?

"You know, education -- if you make the most of it, you study hard and you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well.

"If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."
Let's look at what an apology is, shall we?

a‧pol‧o‧gy  /əˈpɒlədʒi/
–noun, plural -gies.
1. a written or spoken expression of one's regret, remorse, or sorrow for having insulted, failed, injured, or wronged another

He's not regretting his actions, he's regretting the consequences of his actions. That is not the same thing.

Update: Hoo-ya y'Armay had this to say...


Matt said...

"I personally apologize to any service member, family member, or American who was offended"

I didn't hear Bush apologize for joking about the very reason he sent all our boys there in the first place.

"Are the WMD's here? Nope, not there.... maybe here? Nope." (Bush looking around the oval office, looking under chairs and his desk for imaginary WMD's)

Funny joke Mr. President

k2aggie07 said...

Theres a difference between the two. One is making fun of oneself, the other is a comment that wasn't really a joke to begin with that was in poor taste or judgement.

Matt said...

Making humor out of the very reason that 104 american soldiers DIED FOR this month isn't in poor taste or judgement?!

watch it, it'll make you want to scream. not only because it contradicts your assumption about kerry's comment, but for its solid common sense and logic.

k2aggie07 said...

Thats a little bit of hyperbole. It makes me want to scream because its sad that people actually buy that BDS stuff.

3agsmom said...

If you listen to the Kerry tape, you hear the deafening silence that greeted his "joke" -- no one there got it -- and they heard the entire prelude to the comment and heard it in context. Olbermann wants to make you think that President Bush and the republicans were too stupid to realize that Kerry was talking about the President or they intentionally distorted what Kerry said to politicize the event. I think it was just a classic Freudian slip -- what Kerry really thinks is what came out of his mouth. He is pompous and thinks he's smarter and better than others, the President, the troops and the people. Now we all know what he truly thinks about us all.

Matt said...

I find it extremely hard to believe that Kerry, a decorated veteran of vietnam, could think that soldiers are stupid. They're stupid now, but not then? I know plenty of intelligent people who are serving there and I know that Kerry knows soldiers aren't "stupid". If there was any "freudian slip" it was that he really thinks that people who don't stay in school are more likely to join the military. That's absolutely true.

By the way, you were considering being a marine right? You know, they're still having a recruitment problem. I wonder how your mother would feel if you decided to join up and help fight the war that you support, they sure could use some help. I don't mean to come off as a jerk, just trying to give perspective. I'm sure your future is too bright and important to join. I know I sure wouldn't want to die for something as pointless and unnecessary as this.

3agsmom said...

matt -- his mom would be concerned for his well-being and safety but proud beyond all belief that her son would be serving his country -- as I am sure all mothers of US service men and women are.

Every young man and woman's future is bright and important, not just k2aggie07's.

There are those that think that standing up for their principles and sacrificing for the greater good is worthwhile.

Matt said...

I admire your belief that this war is being fought for the greater good. You seem like a great, loving mother... but I have to say that your thinly veiled attempt to imply that I am not a person that would fight and die for the principles that I stand for disgusts and offends me. I do not stand for unjust wars because unjust wars involve the killing of other human beings over petty misunderstandings. I choose not betray my own principles and beliefs in order to pull the trigger on my brother or sister and assume the role of God in judging whether or not a fellow person who lives and breathes just as I do deserves to DIE.

Your son on the other hand believes with all his heart that this war parallels that which he thinks is right and necessary in this world. I'm merely pointing out that he should fight for what HE believes in... he's the right age, I'm sure he's in shape, and he's already in the right mindset, so what's keeping him from enlisting. Don't turn it around on me, because some of us other Americans think that killing other human beings who eat, drink, feel, smell, breathe and love one another just as you and I do in our own lives deserve only when God says so. I'm sorry, but I won't do the dirty work of someone I did not vote for, and aggressively opposed... especially someone who, along with his complete presidential cabinet, not only did not go to war themselves when their country needed them, but dodged the draft completely to stay out of harms way. Tell W to fight his own war.

Matt said...

**deserve-to die-only when God says so**

k2aggie07 said...

You're in over your head, bub. First of all, you've got no right questioning anyone's patriotism or willingness to sacrifice for their country. Second of all, you're making some pretty big assumptions.

I'm in the Corps of Cadets at Texas A&M. That means I did two years of ROTC training to be a Marine. I would have gone to OCS last summer and been commissioned when I graduated as a 2nd lieutenant. Unfortunately, I tore up my Achilles' tendon pretty badly while running and can no longer run. Hence, no commission, no Marines.

PS W didn't dodge the draft. He served honorably (as in, he got an honorable discharge) in the National Guard. And, actually, I'd rather someone dodge the draft than come home to lie about war crimes and stab his fellow servicemen in the back. A draft dodger is a liar and a coward -- but that doesn't hold a candle to a traitor.

Matt said...

Show me where I questioned anyone's patriotism. That last comment was in response to an implication that I would not stand up for my own principles or sacrifice myself for the greater good. If that's not questioning someones patriotism, I don't know what is.

George Bush went AWOL for a full year and suffered no consequences.

Section 4.9.5 e. of Article 85 of the UCMJ, which states that the maximum punishment for desertion in a time of war (3), is, "Death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct".

According to the records available from the National Guard, the period between May 1972 and May 1973 remains unaccounted for. George W. Bush himself has refused to answer questions about this period in his life, other than to state that he fulfilled all of his National Guard commitments. If this were true, why is there no record of him fulfilling these commitments at either of his posts in Texas or Alabama? Why is there not one commanding officer that can come forward and state unequivocally that Bush reported for duty?

Your president joined the national guard specifically because he wouldn't have to go to vietnam. Those were your options back then. And the most popular of them (in order to evade being drafted) was to join up in the national guard. John Kerry fought for your country, Bush did not. Have some respect.

Matt said...

I'm sorry for implying that you wouldn't fight for what you believe in. I realize that what I said earlier could easily be seen as an implication that you were not being a "patriot", after having read my words again. What I was going for more generally is the fact that if you're a person who fits what the army is looking for and you support the war, why not support it by actually physically participating in it. I admire the fact that you joined up and were on your way to being a marine. My cousin and one of my best freinds is a sniper and he's there right now. It may sound like a complete and utter contradiction, but I wholeheartedly support and respect him and his decision to fight, while at the same time 100% disagreeing with it on a spiritual level. Quite a dichotomy.

To sum up, I believe peace and pacifism is equally as "patriotic" as fighting in a war (justified or not). I could never make the distinction between it being wrong to murder here at home, and shooting a stranger in a foreign country for whatever reason. Soldiers can, I can't and I refuse. That's just the nature of my upbringing and my own philosophy on life.

3agsmom said...

matt - my comment about "There are those that think that standing up for their principles and sacrificing for the greater good is worthwhile" was in response to your "something as pointless and unnecessary as this" -- meaning that there are those who think the war against terrorism which includes Iraq is the for the greater good and; therefore, not pointless. It was not intended to imply that you would not stand up for your principles. I apologize for offending you.

Matt said...

Thanks a lot, I appreciate the apology. I've just never seen anything that would convince me that Iraq was a good move. All of the information out there shows the exact opposite. Horrible decision, wrong timing, irresponsible planning, no exit strategy, no wmd's, increased rates of terrorist recruitments, death tolls rising every month. I can see how you believe the war in Iraq is part of the global war on terrorism (which I am 100% for), but it only became that way after WE decided to pre-emptively invade it. I don't understand this: how can you morally justify invading a country that did not threaten, attack or even imply a physical threat towards you? And if this were the actual policy of true conservatives, why haven't we also invaded North Korea, Iran, and Pakistan who have all been shown to either have nuclear weapons, or are seeking them, and are notoriously known to harbor terrorism? None of it makes sense.